I wonder about Bonzo's statement that Love cannot be killed. Whose 'love'? Jesus's ability to love, and to clarify that idea of 'love' was certainly extinguished on the Cross. Love in the World can never be extinguished because it is a chemical function of our genes. As it has been since dinosaurs first built nests. Love is not a supernatural external trait, it is a personal one. Bonzo does not have his wonderful excess of Love because of a cruci fiction, but because being human and being brought up in Love has made him so.
In one sense Jesus' Love didn't die with him on the cross. Love is infectious. If you pass it on it grows and changes people, and by the time Jesus died his disciples were changed enough by it that it couldn't be stopped. Of course it is something innate, a function of our brains enabled by our genes. I don't personally see it as having supernatural qualities, but it can be thought of as having something very similar - Love (metaphorically) 'moves mountains', 'throws down tyrants' and 'confounds the powers of this world'. Love seems to spring up where everyone thought it was buried.
Yes, being brought up in Love has helped me to Love - in fact every act of Love, whether it's by parents, teachers, friends or strangers, helps others to Love.
Yesterday, I went to the wedding of a girl I have known since she was a baby, born into a difficult family situation, plagued with mental illness and poverty. Many people would have given her little hope of becoming much. But now, a qualified teacher, marrying a chemical engineer, organising a wonderful day. Two people, very much in Love, showing a commensurate grasp of all that is needed to have a happy an successful life. How did such a thing come about? Well, to my mind, it came about because of nurture in Love by a mum and dad who, despite their problems, gave their daughter the wings to fly.
The various human(istic) accounts are wonderful to my mind. I don t partic wanna separate the human and the divine either. Often its seems to be a matter of languages, dialects, or registers (science or poetry etc)
And, I have been touched from time to time by humans, by maybe archetypes, by the past reaching forward, or maybe the future reaching back (?). I have felt my heart strangely moved (+ other organs!
I feel I have felt Jesus or Light with me or within me and within you---
youse on here have shown me love, shown me God from time to time in diverse ways.
I have from the age of 3 onwards as memory serves encountered some loving, good and amazing human beings in assemblies / gospel halls,SA citadels/ halls, chapels, churches, meeting houses and among all kinds of people who quietly and without balleehoo were trying to follow JC
i myself have sat with dying people and their loved ones,depressed people, mentally ill people, people imprisoned as well as being the one with whom others have sat or sought to give help...
it all adds up to something innit
these days i m not that keen to define, label or laid down stuff
its not been a waste time I'm feckin sure of That
in hospitals, homes, courts, prisons,