Quotes from Hatless:
If a young girl has been raped and is pregnant as a result, and is being prepared for an abortion, I think it's not only inappropriate, but abusive to make her undergo a medically useless scan. I can see that in some cases women might change their minds about an abortion having seen a scan. In those cases you could imagine that compulsory scans would save lives. But there are situations where it seems to me to be horribly wrong to try and sway the person. If someone has been seriously traumatised by a rape or is a victim of repeated abuse, say, it isn't a great time to play on their emotions in the hope that they might change their mind. It only adds a second trauma to the first.
anti-abortion campaigners often show photographs of aborted foetuses in the belief that they will stir the feelings of those who accept abortion in certain circumstance. Just as it's harder to kill a pig than to buy a packet of sausages or harder to eat a chicken that you have fed for the past few months, so they think, I assume, that people will be less likely to have an abortion if they've seen an ultrasound image of their foetus.
If you can make that 'so they HOPE', rather than 'so they THINK', I'll agree with that, too. That said, the question still remains of whether the campaigning point is a valid one or not.
Would it perhaps be better if these scans and photographs were shown to boys and girls who are on the brink of sexual activity, with the message: "If you don't take every precaution when you have sex, and don't check if you're pregnant soon afterwards and get an early abortion if you need one, this is what you'll end up making and destroying."?
Quotes from OR:
You have a great faith in politician's goodness in human nature which the facts have never justified anywhere in the World.
I have very little faith in politicians, many of whom, I suspect, would sell their principles (if they had any) to gain any sort of advantage for themselves or their party. That said, I don’t doubt that there are honourable exceptions. While the worst will, I don’t doubt, do anything they can to control people, the best may very well be motivated by a wish to do what they perceive as right.
The worst will do anything they can get away with to control people.
I don’t think you’re being quite cynical enough, here. I would be willing to bet that even the best will do anything they can get away with to control people. Isn’t that the idea behind going into politics: you think you’ve got the answers to the country’s problems, and you want the power to put them into practise? But you can only exercise that power if you can control people. Even ‘liberals’ don’t believe in NOT controlling people – they just want to control people to behave in a way that ‘liberals’ think is proper.
Why? A mixture of extreme belief, hate inspired irrational stereotyping, jealousy of the sexually repressed, male control over fertility, and maybe, considering where we are talking about, pressure from the medical profession to increase fees.
You may well be right. All I would say is that I wouldn’t call the belief that it is deeply regrettable to destroy something which is practically a human baby an ‘extreme’ one. ‘Jealousy of the sexually repressed ‘ opens up another avenue altogether – aren’t there certain of our sexual drives which ought to be repressed? I sometimes fear that in the west Sex has become part of our modern Holy Trinity, along with Shopping and Celebrity: ‘If you’re not having sex – or spending money, or getting your picture in the media - you’re not having life’. So we f**k and we f**k, and we spend and we spend, and we’ll do anything – even make complete fools of ourselves – to get on television; but the drugs don’t work. We feel empty, and cheated, so we f**k harder, go deeper into debt, haul our non-existent talent on to some talent show and let the audience rip us apart; and the downward spiral of emptiness and pointlessness goes on.
There’s got to be more to life than that, hasn’t there? But if there is, what is it? And who is telling the world about it?